**Warning: this episode has explicit language.
This is one of those really raw, really amazing conversations with two people who have done their best to find themselves, root themselves in who they are becoming and desperately trying to make a break from a life they were taught to live in a certain way that made this little family implode. They've pulled it all together. And don't you just love a story where people, against the odds, can pull it all together and grow stronger for it?
My new friends Katie and Andrew May, hosts of the awesome Allegory & Elm podcast have opened up to talk with me about the affair that rocked their entire world, the loss of a dearly loved one, the 2 businesses that they are running successfully, and raising two kids and a podcast baby and how they keep it all together.
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